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Changeovers to…?

So, apparently the rebels have won. Clayface…errrr…Gaddafi may or may not have been removed from power…maybe. Because apparently it’s just too damn hard to keep tabs on a guy who looks like this :

Yay me!

When grapes get really old...

No way that anyone could possibly track a dude whose clothes (and face) make Mickey Rourke go “DAMN!” well enough to know if he’s still in charge or not.

Anyway, the rebels are probably in charge. So yay for us, I guess, for providing them with guns and close air support, without which they wouldn’t have gotten very far (even against old tanks, pickup trucks don’t typically provide much in the way of effective opposition). So good for us, right?

Or is it? The truth of the matter is that we still don’t have the slightest clue. We still don’t know exactly who these guys are. We don’t know what they want. We don’t know what sorts of laws they want to enact. We don’t know what sort of government they want to put in place.

Nobody argues that Gaddafi was bad, but a great big mysterious question mark isn’t inherently better. It’s just a question mark. And so are the Libyan rebels.

Remember the fabled ‘Northern Alliance’ in Afghanistan? Sure, they were a great help against the Taliban, because that provided a universal enemy that they all wanted to shoot at. However, things changed once the Taliban were gone. That ‘alliance’ was actually a group of guys with extremely different ideas for what should follow. Not many of them liked each other. Most of them didn’t so much disagree with the Taliban as just wish they were the ones doing the dominating. And now no government projects any sort of power anywhere in the country because those ‘brave allies’ have them outgunned in nearly every province. But they were a convenient ‘friend’ at the time.

Why am I getting a sense of deja vu? How many times do we need to learn the same lesson before things finally sink in?

And we continue to show ridiculous hypocrisy in the region. We blow up Gaddafi while waving a stern finger in the face of Syria. And we completely ignore Bahrain slaughtering protesters by the thousand because our ‘good friends’ the Saudis (you know, the nation probably doing more to foment extremism than any other country on Earth) were sending in tanks to help with the killing. Wouldn’t want to embarrass them, after all!

How many people would take odds against the West being involved again in Libya in the next 10 years to go after the people we just essentially handed power to? I sure as Hell wouldn’t bet against it.

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  • Tammy

    ha ha…your right Mickey Rourke would be thinking…he looks awesome!  I wonder who does his plastic surgery!?  Maybe they can hire him for Expendables II

  • Brad

    Frankly the west has been fucking up the world by backing the wrong group, supporting dictators, overthrowing democratically elected leaders for those dictators, I kinda feel like we don’t have a moral high ground to tell them the way they should have a government. Sure overthrow Gaddafi, but step back and let the people there decide what they want. If they want an anti-western world viewpoint? Let them. Just leave them alone and let them run their country the way they want.

    If we have to go back in 10 years later? So be it, get rid of another sadistic idiot who wants to exterminate his own people. Its cheaper than trying to stay there to help keep in place a government the people will hate, but that is friendly to the west. Lets stop ‘spreading democracy’ around the world. It hasn’t worked very well so far.

  • http://www.peerpressureworks.com Cliff

    And that’s kinda my point. Why were they there NOW? Oh, right, to ‘create democracy and freedom’. By maintaining a no fly zone. And that apparently now means giving lots of big guns to rebels and bombing targets for them in a CAS role.

    So we’ve created the shit out of some democracy, and we’re left with…what? We just collectively spent how many billions of dollars to help get in place a bunch of people WE KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT.

    An actual no entry zone would have been fine…keep the civilians from being slaughtered like cattle. And that’s it. Instead, we spent billions in cash and thousands of bombs to pretty much change over the government to…??? Any result that ends up hurting us in the long run is once again 100% self inflicted.

  • http://twitter.com/hadaad hadaad

    I have one question for you, Cliff: Why do you hate freedom? Why did you want Gadhafi to win?

    Choose life! Choose democracy! Stop hating yourself!

  • http://twitter.com/hadaad hadaad

    Okay, well, that’s two questions and three exclamations, but still, c’mon. You wanted Gadhafi to win?